Talk:Bow Tie Bat

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Naming

The name appears to be "<random sound effect word> +ity" and then "Chitter"

i.e. Bark ity Chitter, Ping ity Chitter

  • Rather, it seems to be a stock set of words with the first word ending in "ity."
    • The words we've seen as both words include: Flap, Ping, Scratch, Squeak, Skritch, and Swoop.
    • Words that have been first word only: Bark(ity)
    • Words that have been second word only: Chitter--PsychoBoy 13:34, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Effect

Is there really any evidence this guy increases item drop? His messages don't suggest it - they happen during every round, not alongside the actual item drops, like familiars that do that do. Given that he's screeching, my guess is something like progressive deleveling. --Lespectre 06:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

No. I'm definitely supporting the whole Increases Spell Damage idea. I'm seeing at least a +100 more spell damage when I cast with him as opposed to without. I go from dealing about 200 to maybe 350 with weapon of the pastalord. --Zebtrestalala 06:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it also increases weapon damage, as I go from 250ish damage without it to 610 damage with it when I was getting the Right tool for the job trophy with the gnollish autoplunger --Zebtrestalala 06:40, 27 March 2009

Level 10 Effect

The combat messages are a reference to the item-stealing bat in the old Atari game Adventure. Any idea what the ability does? --Quine 06:22, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

It looks like it pick pockets at level 10. this is from the text on the page only, so some PM will have to confirm this thought. makes narrative sense as well with the failed messages at level 10 and the reference.--Brion thenotgiant 00:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks like pickpocket, yes. However, mine just did something unbelievable. After fighting a filthy hippy, my Bat performed the pickpocket script three separate times and stole a different item each time: a patchouli stick, a fountain, and tambourine bells. Furthermore, the hippy then dropped another patchouli stick (just in case it's important, I had a Stinky Gravy Fairy active). The current page for the filthy hippy says it only drops one of these, and that should stay the same even if I pick its pocket. Unless this is a glitch, the Bat has the potential to do much more than ordinary pickpocketing.--PsychoBoy 15:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

  • This changed w/the nerf. Cranked +item enough to guarantee beanbat drop, and it didn't drop after it was pickpocketed. --Top1214 04:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Second occurrence against a writing desk, It pickpocketed a brandy and an inkwell at the same time and after winning the desk dropped another brandy.--PsychoBoy 21:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Been exploring a little more, and just adding that pickpocket attempts (successful and failing) can happen mid-combat. Also, I have not seen it attempt a pickpocket if you win on the same turn that you summon it.--PsychoBoy 20:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Today something strange happened in relation to the pickpocketing standards which were apparently assumed. I summoned my Bat against Bad ASCII Art and defeated it. My Bat picked its pocket four times at once for the 30669, 33398, and the two 334 scrolls. Upon the monster's defeat it did not drop all these items again, it only dropped one of its 334 scrolls.--PsychoBoy 20:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Has anyone had a bat snag a pickpocket-only item? I've been siccing my level 10 bat against spectral jellyfish for the last two days, just for kicks, and it hasn't snagged any jelly yet; of course, a sample size of 20 is meaningless, but I'm considering it's possible it uses a mechanic similar to the divine cracker and cannot obtain pickpocket-only items. Yay for confusion brought by using a specific term for a similar-but-not-identical mechanic. --Terion 02:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

I've been trying for a week straight now to get a caret from an Anime Smiley using this technique, and no dice. It does manage to always get something, but it's been exclusively a 334 scroll or tasty candy. In terms of proving that it cannot get pickpocket only items, any suggestions?--Foggy 22:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

  • According to C. H. U. M., all of its regular drops are conditionals, which supposedly can't be picked. So if you fail to pick C.H.U.M. chum, I think this would mean the bat can't PP-only. --BagatelleT/C 01:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

I've decided to try with the Spectral Jellyfish. If attempted over 16 straight days, that will generate 480 attempts at getting a specetral jellyfish. If that comes up 0, I think we can rule out pickpocketed items. (CHUMs and Hobos would be a good suggestion if this particular character were in a clan with a dungeon.)--Foggy 19:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Just an update: Day 7, 202 attempts, and no successful pickpocket of a Spectral Jellyfish. At a 1% drop rate, 202 attempts results a 13% chance of not getting anything (.99^202). Continuing.--Foggy 15:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Final update: 14 days have gone by, with over 400 attempts and no successful pickpocket of the Spectral Jellyfish. Given the earlier failure with the Anime Smiley, I'd presume that it does not successfully pickpocket pickpocket-only items.--Foggy 18:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

tiny black hole interaction

Can you steal with this and Pickpocket? --Raijinili 07:26, 12 May 2011 (UTC)