Talk:Insult Beer Pong

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I don't know the exact wording but there is one about a black guard which uses the breath retort. --Chunky_boo 23:45, 4 December 2007 (CST)

I doubt there will be insults that use the "Look, a three-headed monkey," "I'm rubber and you're glue," and "I know you are, but what am I?" responses, because in "Monkey Island" they were last-ditch choices, and the pirates damaged by using The Big Book of Pirate Insults sputter those answers.--Staplerinjelle

"Do ye hear that, ye craven blackguard? It be the sound of yer doom!" "It can't be any worse than the smell of your breath!"

--Bagism 00:44, 5 December 2007 (CST)

I got the 'Do ye hear that, ye craven blackguard? It be the sound of yer doom!' and the smell of your breath wasn't a valid retort. My options were: How appropriate, you fight like a cow. Look, a three-headed monkey. I'm rubber, you're glue. I know you are, but what am I? and First you'd better stop waving it around like a feather-duster. The answer was NOT 'First you'd better stop waving it around like a feather duster'.--Ketaped 09:16, 5 December 2007 (CST)

I added a few new ones that I got but I am not sure if I am doing this right as I got a result with a different pair. For now I am going to remove my changes and ask that someone make it a little more clear as to what we are looking for when the book is used. --Rainmaker709 4:01 5 December 2007 (PST)

Yeah, I'm also getting different insult-retort pairings. Maybe they're different from person to person? --LegendaryBard 12:17, 5 December 2007 (CST)

Is "Rickets" a reference to Ricket or something else? --CluckyB 12:19, 5 December 2007 (CST)

---I believe "Don Rickets" is a reference to insult comic Don Rickles. -- Jererry 11:17, 7 December 2007 (CST)

It seems that each "retort" does not become available for you to use until you have had it used against you (from reading the Big Book of Insults during a combat adventure in the Obligatory Pirate's Cove) and become "Embarrassed" as a result. --MalLardo 15:57, 5 December 2007 (CST)

You flip open the Big Book of Pirate Insults and pick one at random.
"You're as ugly a maggot as any I've laid eyes upon!"
The pirate sneers at you and replies "Amazing! How do you manage to shave 
without using a mirror?"
Dang, man. That hurts.
You acquire an effect: Embarrassed
(duration: 1 Adventure) 

Doesn't match with the article? --Kari 01:54, 7 December 2007 (CST)

Odds of winning

This may be of interest to somebody. Suppose you know how to use all the comebacks correctly, but you haven't "learned" all the comebacks in this ascension. Your odds of winning are the same as your odds of getting three different insults in a row for which you've heard the comeback already.

If you know five out of eight insult/response combinations, the odds of winning the first round are 5/8. Then one insult and one comeback is missing, so your odds in the second round are 4/7; then in the third round it's 3/6. So:

Known insultsOdds of winning
55/8 * 4/7 * 3/6 = 17%
66/8 * 5/7 * 4/6 = 35%
77/8 * 6/7 * 5/6 = 62%
8100% (obviously)

Hope that helps! --Kazim 11:36, 12 December 2007 (CST)

I just did some maths, assuming the chance of each counter-insult is equal when you're collecting them (including the failure ones), so figuring the chance of picking up a 6th comeback is 3/13 for each pirate you use the book on, it is strictly fastest to engage in insult beer pong when you have collected 5 comebacks. Going for 6 or 7 does, of course, have the advantage of wasting fewer adventures, because you get stats and items from the fights and nothing from a failed beer pong. But if you want raw speed, 5 is the way to go. (I was lazy - I didn't do proper formula maths, I just ran 100000 test cases with the numbers for each.) From the point at which you got the 5th taunt, it will take an average 5.6 adventures to win beer pong, or 4.3 adventures to get a 6th taunt then another 2.8 to win at beer pong with it. --RavenBlack 11:12, 28 May 2008 (CDT)

  • You'll need to recalculate; the odds of getting a "failed" retort (the extra 5, non-useful ones) is a flat 25%, and the odds of getting a retort that you haven't seen yet is supposed to be tilted in your favor somehow. Thus the odds of getting the 6th retort are at least 3/4 * 3/8 = 9/32 per pirate. --Hellion 17:07, 28 May 2008 (CDT)

  • I put the chances on the page, and thank you to whoever compressed it!--Larryboy 08:47, 14 July 2008 (CDT)

Davy Jones

OK, I'd be the first to admit that I know nothing about pop culture, but why do people keep adding "Davy Jones" to the references section when neither "Davy" nor "Jones" appears in the article? If it's a valid reference, it is something that needs to be explained better. --Bagatelle 19:10, 26 December 2007 (CST)

Because it makes no sense, by itself, for a pirate to swear by Mike Nesmith. Pirates swear by Davy Jones, the name traditionally used to refer to the personification of the sea (items that go overboard are "sent to Davy Jones' locker," someone thrown overboard is "thrown to Davy Jones," etc.) Coincidentally, there was a singer named David Jones in the rock group The Monkees who went by "Davy." Therefore, it's a consistent joke throughout the Kingdom that every time a pirate would be making a reference to Davy Jones another member of the Monkees, Mike Nesmith, is referred to instead. The words "Davy Jones" don't appear in the article, but the words "Mike Nesmith" only make sense in context if you know that they've been SWAPPED for the words "Davy Jones."--YunaTwilight 11:07, 19 January 2008 (CST)