Talk:Warbear jackhammer drill press

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Yield spading a little

You can get the message on items that do not produce wads. However, there is no effect on these items. (i.e. you don't get extra powder or extra nuggets). I did not test on gems, epic wads, epic clusters, or enough on sea salt crystals.

258 smashes, all done one at a time. (1 smash, 1 item getting smashed)

Over that sample, I got the message 36 times. The message does not always produce a wad or antimatter wad, even if the item normally only yields wads. That's 13.59%, but prior to the smashes with sawblade shield, it was closer to 10% at the 100 smash mark (it seemed to happen more often with higher wad yield items (anectodal I know), but still just as likely to produce nothing extra).

My data is here, in detail, for items that I got the message. "Normal Output" can have two possibilities, each possibility is separated by a semicolon (i.e. a giant cactus quill will normally produce either 2 wads, or 1 wad and 3 nuggets):

Item Smashed Gems Wads Nuggets Powders Antimatter Normal Output
giant cactus quill 0 1 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
grassy cutlass 0 2 0 0 0 1w;4n
haggis socks 0 0 0 1 0 1p
haggis socks 0 0 0 1 0 1p
headhunter necktie 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
hippy medical kit 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
hippy medical kit 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
iiti kitty phone charm 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
iiti kitty phone charm 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
lead pipe 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
lead pipe 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
lead pipe 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
lead pipe 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
lead pipe 0 1 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
Lockenstock™ sandals 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
Lord Spookyraven's ear trumpet 0 0 4 0 0 1w;4n
perforated battle paddle 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
perforated battle paddle 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
pygmy nose-bone 0 0 0 0 1 1w;4n
ridiculously huge sword 0 0 4 0 0 1w;4n
round purple sunglasses 1 0 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
sawblade shield 0 4 0 0 0 3w
sawblade shield 0 4 0 0 0 3w
sawblade shield 0 4 0 0 0 3w
sawblade shield 0 3 0 0 0 3w
smirking shrunken head 0 2 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
smirking shrunken head 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
star hat 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
star hat 0 3 0 0 0 2w;1w3n
wicker shield 0 1 0 0 1 2w;1w3n
wolf mask 0 2 0 0 0 1w;4n
wrench bracelet 0 4 0 0 0 3w
wrench bracelet 0 4 0 0 0 3w
wrench bracelet 0 4 0 0 0 3w
wool hat 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n
yohohoyo 0 2 3 0 0 2w;1w3n

--Hastifer (talk) 22:07, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Smashing 516 happiness (all at once) yielded 362 twinkly nugget, 376 hot nugget, 413 twinkly wad, 424 hot wad, 12 steamy ruby and 8 antimatter wad.

  • The expected average yield without the drill press would have been 387 hot nugget, 387 twinkly nugget, 387 twinkly wad, and 387 (hot wad or steamy ruby), if I understand how Pulverize works.
  • Ignoring the antimatter wads for the moment, the actual yield had 246*3 nuggets, so call that "246 nugget results". That leaves 270 "double wad results". So without the drill press we'd expect to see a total of 246+2*270 = 786 wads + gems. In fact we saw 849, or 857 if we count the antimatter wads.
  • Hastifer's two antimatter results above are consistent with the theory that an antimatter wad replaces a wad, the same way the gems do. (Could be twinkly only, or any wad -- we don't have enough data to tell yet.)
  • Hastifer's non-antimatter results also seem to indicate that the drill press only gives extra wads -- never extra nuggets or powders -- and sometimes the message doesn't actually do anything at all. (But we really need more data to be sure of this part.)
  • So taking those last 3 points all together, it looks like I got a 9% increase in total wads from the drill press, with 2% of my twinkly wads becoming antimatter, and 3% of my hot wads becoming steamy rubies. These are very rough figures, and it's a small sample.

--Greycat (talk) 15:34, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Smashing 435 didgeridooka (all at once) yielded 1417 twinkly wad and 12 antimatter wad. Counting both types of wad together, and sticking with the theory stated above, that's a 9.5% increase over the expected yield, and a 0.85% rate of converting twinkly wads to antimatter wads. --Greycat (talk) 15:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Smashing 850 skeleton bone (all at once) yielded 406 twinkly powder and 444 spooky powder. There was no additional message from the drill press, and no increase in yield (850 total powder is the exact expected yield). So the drill press definitely does not increase powder yields, at least from skeleton bones. --Greycat (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Smashing 100 Private Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Jacket (all at once) yielded 300 twinkly nugget. Again, there was no message, and no yield increase. Looks like it doesn't increase nugget yields either. --Greycat (talk) 15:58, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe the message, when non productive, only happens on an individual smash. Because I know I saw the message yield nothing multiple times. Looks like it's safe to say it "does something" 10% of the time, but only if wads are involved. And that when it does something, there's another 10% it instead gives antimatter? It'd at least be a guideline for wiki viewers until something more substantial can be spaded (I think your efforts were substantial enough though).

Of note is that I did see it give an elemental wad increase at least once (which is all we need to know for the question of "does it increase elemental wads"). Jury is still out on if the elemental wad can be converted to antimatter, because of the % to get twinkly/elemental. That might not even be a valid question. --Hastifer (talk) 18:39, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I think it's increasing gem chances a bit. I got the "it's helping" message from pulverizing something and only got a gem and nuggets. Which might mean that it operates as a wad count increaser that increases odds of gems while providing a "gem" version of twinkly wads in the form of antimatter wads? --Crzymdscntst123 (talk) 15:11, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

You smash the (4) gold crowns.

twinkly nuggets You acquire 3 clusters of twinkly nuggets [malus] [malus] cold nuggets You acquire 6 clusters of cold nuggets [cook] [malus] [cook] spooky nuggets You acquire 3 clusters of spooky nuggets [cook] [malus] [cook] antimatter wad You acquire an item: antimatter wad

no message, no regular wads, but I still got an antimatter wad. -Nerdgasmic (talk)

I received this information in a kmail:

Pulverizing giant needle (100)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (228)
You acquire twinkly wad (46)
giant needle (100) smashed.
Pulverizing giant needle (150)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (276)
You acquire twinkly wad (91)
You acquire an item: antimatter wad
giant needle (150) smashed.
Pulverizing giant needle (150)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (324)
You acquire twinkly wad (73)
giant needle (150) smashed.
Pulverizing brown felt tophat (1,389)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (2,752)
You acquire twinkly wad (767)
You acquire antimatter wad (6)
brown felt tophat (1,389) smashed.
Pulverizing giant needle (9,727)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (19,712)
You acquire twinkly wad (5,240)
You acquire antimatter wad (52)
giant needle (9,727) smashed.
Pulverizing giant safety pin (1,401)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (2,820)
You acquire twinkly wad (755)
You acquire antimatter wad (7)
giant safety pin (1,401) smashed.
Pulverizing rave whistle (2,550)...
You acquire twinkly nuggets (7,650)
rave whistle (2,550) smashed.

--Greycat (talk) 13:26, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Another another kmail:

Pulverizing bat-ass leather jacket (1,250)...
You acquire twinkly wad (709)
You acquire hot wad (693)
You acquire cold wad (633)
You acquire spooky wad (656)
You acquire stench wad (686)
You acquire sleaze wad (639)
You acquire steamy ruby (11)
You acquire glacial sapphire (9)
You acquire unearthly onyx (17)
You acquire effluvious emerald (14)
You acquire tawdry amethyst (22)
You acquire antimatter wad (34)
bat-ass leather jacket (1,250) smashed.

--Greycat (talk) 18:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Smashed 1000 giant needles, gonna do it again real fast. You acquire 1,848 clusters of twinkly nuggets twinkly wad You acquire 593 twinkly wads antimatter wad You acquire 6 antimatter wads --Megamaw (talk) 23:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

You smash the giant needles. You acquire 1,948 clusters of twinkly nuggets You acquire 556 twinkly wads You acquire 3 antimatter wads Neither of these results had the 'help' text.--Megamaw (talk) 16:41, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

300 bat-ass leather jackets: 149 twinkly wads, 161 hot wads, 149 cold wads, 157 spooky wads, 168 stench wads, 175 sleaze wads, 4 steamy rubies, 2 glacial sapphires, 1 unearthly onyx, 3 effluvious emeralds, 4 tawdry amethysts, 10 antimatter wads. --Greycat (talk) 02:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

100 Meat Tenderizer is Murder yield 100 handfuls of smithereens. So it doesn't work on brituminous gear. 100 didgeridookas (300W expected) yielded 329W, 6 anti-matter wads. So it looks like it's somewhere around a 10% increase. --Turing (talk) 13:53, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

435 bat-ass leather jackets: 253 twinkly wads, 208 hot wads, 229 cold wads, 229 spooky wads, 230 stench wads, 247 sleaze wads, 3 steamy rubies, 1 glacial sapphire, 3 unearthly onyxia, 5 effluvious emeralds, 4 tawdry amethysts, 16 antimatter wads. --Greycat (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)